Trinity

The truth in their book itself, but "only those can accept the truth who listen"

fabrication of Trinity

The only verse indicating trinity (the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are one) has been removed from the bible by 32 scholars of the bible in the Revised Standard Version among many other verses as fabrication after they realized that these verses do not exist in the most ancient manuscript and as such there is not a single verse indicating Trinity anymore in the complete bible.

Trinitarians use this verse very heavily to try to prove that Jehovah or Allah is 3 in 1, meaning that GOD is the father + Jesus + The Holy Spirit. This claim is a false one, because when Jesus said inMathew 28:18-20 " .All authority (from GOD) has been give to me in heaven and on the earth."

it clearly shows that Jesus had a stronger or higher power over him.  One has to ask himself a very simple question here:  How can GOD say that GOD had given him authority?  It doesn't make any sense, does it.

Also, when Jesus in Mathew 28:18-20 said"..baptizing them in the name of the Father (God), the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit (GOD'S inspiration).." he didn't say go and baptize people in my name (Jehovah).

He mentioned his GOD first, then himself (GOD'S messenger), and in GOD's inspiration (The Holy Spirit). This clearly disproves the claim that GOD IS THREE = GOD+JESUS+HOLY SPIRIT

Matthew 28:19: "Teach all nations, baptizing in the name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit." Although the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are grouped together, this verse does not prove the existence of a triune deity. The verse merely indicates the author's belief that they are to be mentioned together during baptism. Each is thought to have a function in the initiation of the believer during the baptism ritual. Yet no doctrine of coequality among them is promulgated in this verse.

In the early period baptism was simply in "Christ" (Galatians 3:27) or in the name of Jesus (1 Corinthians 1:13, Acts 8:16, 19:5). The text in Matthew represents a later stage of development, but is still not trinitarian in meaning. The doctrine of the trinity is a a still later development.

The Prophets of the Old Testament such as Abraham, Noah and Jonah never preached that God is part of a Trinity, and did not believe in Jesus as their saviour. Their message was simple: there is one God and He alone deserves your worship. It is not logical for God to send Prophets for thousands of years with the same essential message, only to suddenly change it, claim that He is now a part of a trinity, and to stipulate the belief in the divinity of Jesus to be saved.

The truth is, Jesus preached the same message as all the Prophets in the Old Testament. There is a passage in the Bible that really emphasises this core message.

A man came to Jesus and asked, “Which is the first commandment of all?” Jesus answered, “The first of all the commandments is, ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.’ “(Mark 12:28-29)

So, the greatest commandment, the most important belief according to Jesus, is that God is one. If Jesus was God he would have said, ‘I am God, worship me.’ Instead, he merely repeated a verse from the Old Testament confirming that God is One.

This aligns with the mission of Jesus, as taught in Islam, where Jesus was sent to the Children of Israel to confirm the message of the past Prophets – to believe in the One True God.

Allah(God) says: “And when Jesus brought clear proofs, he said, ‘… Indeed, God – He is my Lord and your Lord. So worship Him alone. This is the only Straight Path.’ “Quran 43:63-64

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Jesus Christ taught Monotheism, not TrinityJesus Christ never taught Trinity in the Bible. In fact the word 'Trinity' does not exist in the Bible and the verse closest to Trinity, 1 John 5:7 has been thrown out of the Revise Version of the Bible as an interpolation, a concoction and fabrication. According to the Biblical scholars, this verse, 1 John 5:7 does not exist in the earlier manuscripts of the Bible. But when Jesus was asked that what is the most important commandment, Jesus repeated what Moses had said earlier, "Shama Israelu Adonai Ila Hayno Adonai Ikhad" (Mark 12:29). Which means, "Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord."

Muslims reject the Christian belief that God is a Trinity, not only because the Quran rejects it, but also because if this was God’s true nature, He would have clearly revealed it to Abraham, Noah, Jesus and all of the other prophets.

Like all prophets in Islam, Jesus is considered a Muslim (i.e., one who submits to the will of God), as he preached that his followers should adopt the "straight path" as commanded by God. Traditionally, Islam teaches the rejection of the Trinitarian Christian view that Jesus was God incarnateor the son of God. The Quran says that Jesus himself never claimed to be the Son of God, and it furthermore indicates that Jesus will deny having ever claimed divinity at the Last Judgment, and God will vindicate him.[5]Islamic texts forbid the association of partners with God.

The word ‘Trinity’ is not mentioned in the Bible, but in the Qur’an

The word "Trinity" does not exist anywhere in the whole Bible, but it is mentioned in the Glorious Qur’an in the following places:

a. In Surah Nisa chapter 4 verse 171

"Say not ‘Trinity’: desist: It will be better for you for Allah is one God." [Al-Qur’an 4:171]

b. A similar message is repeated in Surah Maidah chapter 5 verse 73

"They do blaspheme who say Allah is one of three In a Trinity: for there is No god except One God. If they desist not From their word (of blasphemy), Verily a grievous penalty Will befall the blasphemers Among them." [Al-Qur’an 16:125]

The closest verse regarding "Trinity" in the Bible, has now been thrown out of the Bible

The verse in the Bible which is closest to "Trinity" and is often quoted by Christian missionaries is the

first Epistle of John, chapter 5 verse no 7

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word and the Holy Ghost; and these three are one."

In the Revised Standard Version of the Bible (R.S.V.) revised by 32 Christian scholars of the highest eminence backed by 50 different co-operating denominations, this verse which is the keystone of the Christian faith has been removed as an interpolation, as a fabrication and as a concoction. It has not been expunged from the Revised Standard Version of the Bible by the Muslims or by non-Christian scholars, but by 32 Christian scholars of the highest eminence backed by 50 different cooperating denominations as an interpolation, as a concoction and as a fabrication because this verse does not exist in the original manuscript.

what you call "The holy trinity" is purely man-made invention, it's one of the features of polytheism!!! The early christians were truly monotheists. In Matthew 27:45-46,it says, "Now from the sixth hour darkness fell upon all the land until the ninth hour. 46And about the ninth hour Jesus cried out with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?" that is, "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?" If Jesus is God, why would He say this?!!! would like to hear your answer. whats the aim of this life he will relise that there is only one god because we are humans and in all of our life we feel of shortag thats we need help in all things since we born tell we die but our god allah who creat this huge and very wide universal prove to any one use his mined and know verey well thats this life is not the continuosly life but after death there only two ways paradise to those people who belive in one god who hasn't son or wife and the other way is hill its for people who share with allah any thing or any body in his worship and belive for that they must think well before death attack them.

Christians claim that the following verse proves the concept of a Trinity in the Bible:

[KJV][Jn1.5.7] [For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.]

Do you know that this is the ONLY verse in the whole Bible that mentions the Father, the son and the Holy spirit and says: those three are one?

But there is a problem with this verse. This verse is proven fabrication. The verse does not appear in any manuscript before the year 1500. In other words it is a fabricated verse that was inserted into the New Testament over 1500 years after Jesus.

"The text about the three heavenly witnesses (I John 5:7 KJV) is not an authentic part of the NT." [The Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible, Vol. 4, p.711, Abingdon Press.]

And here are 12 English translation Bibles that Deleted this phrase " the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.":

[ASV][Jn1.5.7][And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is the truth.]

[Message][Jn1.5.7][A triple testimony:]

[NIV][Jn1.5.7][For there are three that testify:]

[NLT][Jn1.5.7][So we have these three witnesses - ]

[DarbyEn][Jn1.5.7][ And the Spirit is the witness, because the Spirit is true.]

[BBE][Jn1.5.7][ And the Spirit is the witness, because the Spirit is true.]

[NRSV][Jn1.5.7][ There are three that testify:]

[CEV][Jn1.5.7][ In fact, there are three who tell about it. ]

[RSV][Jn1.5.7][ And the Spirit is the witness, because the Spirit is the truth.]

[GW][Jn1.5.7][ There are three witnesses: ]

[EMT][Jn1.5.7][ For there are three that bear witness: ]

[ESV][Jn1.5.7][ For there are three that testify: ]

In the whole Bible there is no Trinity in anyway. Someone ADDED this sentence to 1 John 5:7 I showed you above Evidences.

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Many Christians believe in Trinity that 'God is three in one.' Lets analyse if the logic they use to prove 'Trinity' is really logical and if 'Trinity' has any Biblical base or NOT.

Is Trinity logical?

First Argument:

A person can also be a father, a brother and a businessman at the same time, but yet, he is one and the same person. Then why 

cannot God be "one in three" i.e. God the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost?

The same person can be a father, a brother and a businessman at the same time.

a. But suppose the sister of that man tells him a secret, it is but natural that the father and the businessman also will know about it. Contrary to this, Jesus (pbuh) has said in the Bible, in the Gospel of Mark, chapter 13 verse 32

"But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."

Here the knowledge of the hour is only known to the Father and not to the Son, indicating that God and Jesus (pbuh) Christ are not one and the same person.

b.  A human being can be a father, a brother, and a businessman at the same time, but if the brother dies, even the father and the businessman will die. Thus, when the Christians say that Jesus (pbuh) died on the cross they will have to agree that God and the Holy Spirit also died.

Second Argument:

The concept of "Trinity" can be explained by giving the example that water can be present in three states, i.e. as solid e.g. 

ice, as liquid e.g. water and gas e.g. vapour, yet it is one and the same water.

I agree that water can be present in three states, that is solid, liquid and gas, as ice, water and vapour but in all three states the matter is the same i.e. H2O and contains two atoms of hydrogen and one atom of oxygen. The material and components are the same although the form of the matter differs. Water remains H2O in the solid form i.e. ice. It remains H2O in the form of gas i.e. vapour. However, in case of Trinity, besides the form changing even the components and material themselves change. The Father is God and Jesus (pbuh) is man, and the Holy Ghost is a spirit and all three are not made up of the same matter or component.

Man contains flesh and bones, whereas God and spirit do not contain flesh and bones. Man requires to eat, etc., whereas God does not require to eat. No wonder Jesus (pbuh) says in the last supper, in the upper room mentioned in the Gospel of Luke, chapter 24 verses 39 to 43

"Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have."And when he had thus spoken, he showed them his hands and his feet.

And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?

And they gave him a piece of broiled fish, and of an honeycomb."

And he took it, and did eat before them.

The Catechism of the Church

a. According to the Catechism of the Christian Church, "The Father is a person, the Son is a person, and the Holy Ghost is a person; but they are not three persons but one person."

Person, person, person but not 3 persons but 1 person! What language is this?

1 + 1 + 1 = 3 and not 1.

1 x 3 = 3 and not 1.

What makes a person different than the other person? It is his personality.

b. If we have three identical triplets and one of them commits murder, should we hang the other two? The answer is ‘No’, because he is a different person having a different personality.

c. When the Christians speak about the Father in Heaven they have a certain mental picture in mind, of an elderly man some what like Santa Claus sitting on one of the planets with the earth as his foot stool. When they speak about the son, they have a certain mental picture in their mind. A tall handsome man, who has a beard and long hair; somewhat like Jeffery Hunter who did the role of Jesus (pbuh) in the film ‘King of Kings’. When they speak about the Holy Ghost they have a certain mental picture in mind like that of a dove that came upon Jesus (pbuh) when he was baptised or like a spirit at the feast of Pentecost. If we ask the Christians "How many mental pictures do you have when you speak about Trinity?"they say "We have only one picture". They lie when they say this, for 1 + 1 + 1 = 3 and not 1.

Who Invented the Trinity? - English

 1-How the concept of the Trinity was introduced into the Christian doctrine. 2-How the injected doctrine of the trinity remained part of the beliefs of the Christians and how Islam defines God. https://islamhouse.com/en/articles/428121/

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Jesus says The lord our God is one Lord (Mark 12:29)

▪▪👉Christians say God is in three persons. Who is right?!!

Jesus (peace be upon him) said that OUR GOD is ONE, And it is the doctrine that the Muslims believe in. The Quran confirms that Jesus called for the worship of the Only True God: “It is Allah Who is my Lord and your Lord; then worship Him. This is a Way that is straight.” (Quran 3:51) "there is no God but Allah"

Our Christian brothers believe that The FATHER( creator ) is God , JESUS is God and the HOLY SPIRIT is God, which contradicts The doctrine of Jesus and the Muslims. 

It is very critical issue, I pray that our Christian brothers rethink about it. Remember not to take what you have between you hand as it is, use your mind your intelligence then have your opinion.

Allah says in the Holy Quran:

"Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him". Quran (112:1-4)

A man came to Jesus and asked, “Which is the first commandment of all?” Jesus answered, “The first of all the commandments is, ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.’ “(Mark 12:28-29) So, the greatest commandment, the most important belief according to Jesus, is that God is one. If Jesus was God he would have said, ‘I am God, worship me.’ Instead, he merely repeated a verse from the Old Testament confirming that God is One.

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The Trinity Doctrine is not taught anywhere in scripture, but trinities were common in Paganism. They are rooted in Babylon, prominent in Egypt, still exist in India, and is the foundation of Roman Catholicism.The beginnings of recognition of this doctrine for Christianity started at the Council of Nicea approximately 325 AD. Hundreds of years after the last book in the Bible was written.The Council of Nicea was organized by the Roman Emperor Constantine and he had the final say on matters that he had little understanding of. He was also head of the Pagan religions.During and after the Holy Roman Empire, creed followed creed, and eventually idols were accepted as forms that we can worship God through. Mary was exalted to Mother of God (a title that goes back to Babylon) and worship of the saints was also sanctioned.

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●Jesus says I ascend to my Father and your Father (John 20:17)

▪▪👉Christians say Jesus is the only son of God. Who is right?!!

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●Jesus says The lord our God is one Lord (Mark 12:29)

▪▪👉Christians say God is in three persons. Who is right?!!

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●Jesus says By myself I can do nothing (John5:30)

▪▪👉Christians say jesus is All Powerfull. Who is right?!!

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●Jesus says The father greater than him (John 14:28)

▪▪👉Christians say Jesus is Equal to the Father. Who is right?!!

The Christian belief that the Father and son are equal is in direct contrast to the clear words from Jesus.In direct contrast to these clear words from Jesus, the orthodox formula of the Trinity says that the Father and the Son are “co-equal.”

Christian Catechism the Christian says

that the Father is God,

the Son is God,

the Holy Spirit is God

but there are not three God’s but One.

That the Father is Almighty

the Son is Almighty,

the Holy Spirit is Almighty

but there are not three Almighties but One… and it continues…

That the Father is a Person

the Son is a Person the Holy Spirit is a Person 

but there are not three Persons but one.

I’m asking what language are you speaking? Is that English?By God it is Gibberish not English.

Some scholars made Bible , edited the bible and are removing the complications from it" Ok tell me why Christian scholars removed 'The concept of trinity and those verses from bible' It means that God wrote something wrong ? so you guys are removing it? On the other hand NOT EVEN A SINGLE WORD IS CHANGED IN QURAN FROM THE LAST 1400 YEARS when it was revealed!

I believe if there is such thing as trinity Then Jesus would be very clear to say it exactly like its instead of saying "your god is one god" because i don't believe that Jesus would like to make us doubtful like this. .

The single most important message of all prophets to their people was to worship God alone and none else and to follow His teachings. All of them, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Moses, Aaron, David, Solomon, Jesus, Muhammad and others, in addition to those we do not know - invited people to worship God and shun false gods.

Moses declared:"Hear, O Israel The Lord our God is one Lord."(Deuteronomy 6:4). This was repeated 1500years later by Jesus, when he said: "The first of all the commandments is, ‘Hear, O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord.’(Mark 12:29)

So, the greatest commandment, the most important belief according to Jesus, is that God is one. If Jesus was God he would have said, ‘I am God, worship me.’ Instead, he merely repeated a verse from the Old Testament confirming that God is One.

This aligns with the mission of Jesus, as taught in Islam, where Jesus was sent to the Children of Israel to confirm the message of the past Prophets – to believe in the One True God.

Jesus (pbuh) thus reiterated the message of monotheism that was given by all earlier prophets of Almighty God.

Most Christians nowadays believe in trinity.. Jesus said i came not to destroy the commandments of moses i came just to fulfill.

Muslims reject the Christian belief that God is a Trinity, not only because the Quran rejects it, but also because if this was God’s true nature, He would have clearly revealed it to Abraham, Noah, Jesus and all of the other prophets.

Islam is the same message given to all the prophets, from Adam, Noah, Moses, Abraham, Jesus, and finally to the Prophet Muhammad, the last messenger (peace and blessings be upon them).

They all brought the same message: worship only God, and stop worshipping human beings and their ideas. Let us believe in one God.